00:17:26 Ursula Pawlowski: full house! WOW!
00:18:08 James Jiloty: Hello, Lotus! Great to see you again and thanks for the invite.
00:20:03 Gregory Tall: Let’s go!!!!!
00:20:05 Stephanie Achten: Let’s GO!
00:20:05 Lindsey O’Connor: Let’s go!
00:20:05 Leah Ramsey: LET’s GO 🙂
00:20:06 Tanisha Harrell: Let’s go!
00:20:06 Jordan Buckner: let’s go!!!
00:20:07 Aaron Miller: Let’s go!
00:20:07 Jeanette Robichaud: Let’s Go!
00:20:08 Wendy Dailey: Let’s go!!
00:20:08 Courtney Padgett: Let’s go!
00:20:09 Annie Wagner: lets go! 🙂
00:20:10 Jamal Bell: Let’s go!
00:20:10 Gayle O’Connor: Ready!
00:20:10 Tracy Hill, HRforHR.org: Let’s go
00:20:12 Eric Kung: LET’S GO!!!!
00:20:13 James Lindsay: Let’s go!
00:20:13 Angelica Patlán: Let’s go!
00:20:14 Jane Murtaugh: Let’s go!!
00:20:14 Scott Rencher: Vroom-vroom
00:20:19 Diane Anderson: Let’s go!
00:20:21 Rebecca Edwards, SPHR, SCP: Let’s geaux!
00:20:32 Yvette Mack-Tate: Let’s go!!
00:20:49 Niels Dale: Niels Dale Bucktown/Wicker Park
00:20:51 Wendy Dailey: Happy to connect from South Dakota! https://www.linkedin.com/in/wendyrhdailey/
00:20:55 Gregory Tall: Gregory Tall in Naperville!
00:20:57 Jay Polaki: Hi, nice to e-meet you! I’m Jay Polaki, the founder of HR Geckos (www.hrgeckos.com), an HR Technology & Management company. Having spent the last two decades in several leadership positions across industries, I have impacted how some of the most important HR functions are defined and executed. While I handle clients internationally across all HR Geckos’ markets, I live, write, grow tomatoes, solve crosswords, and integrate work into life in the USA.
Twitter: @jaypolaki https://twitter.com/jaypolaki
FaceBook: @JayPolaki https://www.facebook.com/JayPolaki/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jpolaki/
00:21:00 Tracy Hill, HRforHR.org: Tracy Hill, community steward in hrforhr.org. Located in San Mateo, CA: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hillt/
00:21:07 Angelica Patlán: Hello, I am Angelica from Livermore, CA. I am transitioning into HR and I would love to connect with you all and learn from you and your journeys. https://www.linkedin.com/in/apatlan/
00:21:08 Leah Ramsey: Leah Ramsey, VP @ HR Maximizer in Houston, TX https://www.linkedin.com/in/leahroseramsey/
00:21:08 Jessica Velazco: Jessica, Recruiting Coordinator at Bitwarden, from Mexico City. https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessica-velazco/
00:21:10 Bernadette NYC (she/her/hers): Here sitting on Lenape land in NYC. Attorney by training, sales and marketing for legal recruiters and DEI advocate and ally for all. https://www.linkedin.com/in/bernadettebeekman
00:21:11 Lindsey O’Connor: Lindsey O’Connor, HR officer for the City of Milwaukee in Milwaukee, WI! LinkedIn.com/in/lindseynathan
00:21:18 Gregory Tall: www.linkedin.com/in/gregorytall
00:21:21 Mike Vaughn: HI Everyone! Excited for the topic today – Mike Vaughn from Charlotte. Global Talent leader – www.linkedin.com/in/michaelvaughn1998
00:21:21 James Lindsay: Jim Lindsay: Southern New Hampshire University Military Employer Relations Partner https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-lindsay-he-him-his-9589198/
00:21:22 Courtney Padgett: Courtney Padgett, Marketing Manager at Hueman People Solutions https://www.linkedin.com/in/courtneypadgett1/
00:21:27 Chloe Irons: Chloe here – Consultant. Logging in from VA, where were spending covid quarantine. Lived in NYC previously. https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-i-024b725/
00:21:33 Jeanette Robichaud: I’m Jeanette Robichaud from Fitchburg State University. I’m the Director of Corporate, Foundation and Government Grant Relations.https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeanette-robichaud-152b692a/
00:21:35 Jane Murtaugh: Jane Murtaugh, HRM professor from DuPage County in the western suburbs of Chicago
00:21:35 Gayle O’Connor: Gayle O’Connor – HR ROI Consulting, from NH! Lots of snow! https://www.linkedin.com/in/gayle-oconnor/
00:21:39 Sarah A. Scala (she/hers/her): Sarah Scala Boston, MA USA – Positive Organizational Change, Executive Coaching, and Leadership Development. https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahscala/
00:21:39 Stephanie Achten: Stephanie Achten, Community Development Manager with Girl Scouts of Wisconsin – Badgerland Council, Madison WI, https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephanieachten/
00:21:41 Diane Anderson: Diane, Talent & Diversity at Northwestern Medicine: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dianderson1/
00:21:45 Crystal DeNoncourt: Hello All. I am Crystal DeNoncourt, from Northern Colorado. I am a HRBP. www.linkedin.com/in/crystaldenoncourt
00:21:54 Lotus Buckner: Welcome, Everyone! Thank you for joining us today for this Real People Real Talk virtual roundtable on Tackling Systemic Bias and Racism. Please join in on the conversation using this Chat feature. We have three rules 1) Be respectful and open-minded regardless of your perspectives and opinions as we are all here to learn AND unlearn, 2) Be unapologetically candid because if we’re going to meet our goal of learning and unlearning, we need to have real, authentic conversations, and 3) Have fun and let your passion on this topic spill out; it’s a safe space.

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00:21:54 Jane Murtaugh: Would love to connect on L/In:https://www.linkedin.com/in/janemurtaugh/
00:22:00 Mya: Mya Fisher, Founder and Chief Executive and Transformation Officer at Global Equity Forward, glad to connect – https://www.linkedin.com/in/myafisher78/
00:22:10 Joanne Schlosser: Joanne Schlosser, AZ based, Executive coach who loves making a difference in DEI space www.linkedin.com/in/joanneschlosser
00:22:11 Felecia Henderson: Felecia Henderson, DEI trainer for the Maynard Institute and CEO of RAVE Strategic Communications, LLC https://www.linkedin.com/in/feleciahenderson/
00:22:11 Niels Dale: Niels Dale – HRBP – Chicago, IL https://www.linkedin.com/in/nielsdale
00:22:13 Annie Wagner: Annie Wagner, I am a Membership Recruitment Specialist for the Girl Scouts in Madison, Wisconsin. I would love to connect with you: https://www.linkedin.com/in/annie-wagner-a38a32159/
00:22:20 Lotus Buckner: Please introduce yourselves – your name, where you’re joining us from and why you’re interested in continuing these critical conversations.
00:22:27 Rebecca Edwards, SPHR, SCP: Rebecca Edwards, Founder of Infinite HR of Charlotte https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebeccaedwardssphr/
00:22:28 Joanne Schlosser: Co is Rising Stars, LLC
00:22:33 Sarah Stephenson: Hi there! My name is Sarah. I’m an HR Director at a small, SaaS firm in Portland, OR. My linkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-stephenson-she-her-75b6427
00:22:33 Yvette Mack-Tate: Would Love to connect! linkedin.com/in/yvette-mack-tate-shrm-scp-she-her-hers-221594b7 Phone
00:22:44 Jamal Bell: Jamal Bell, Data Analyst/Engineer Consultant and Entrepreneur, New York https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamalbell/
00:22:46 Madeleine Azcueta: Hello! My name is Madi, HR Coordinator at a non-profit in Chicago! Would love to connect & learn more being an early HR professional. https://www.linkedin.com/in/mazcueta/
00:22:47 Aaron Miller: Hi all! Aaron Miller logging in from the Detroit area. Flight Attendant at Delta Air Lines (#DeltaProud) and soon-to-be recipient of a B.S. in Business Administration, HR Management. Looking forward to this meeting! Feel free to connect! https://www.linkedin.com/in/amil89/
00:22:56 Jaclyn Jackson: Hi Everyone! Would love to connect. I am the SVP Chief Human Resources officer for National Equity Fund headquartered in Chicago, IL. www.linkedin.com/in/jaclyn-jackson-3165a822.
00:23:01 Scott Rencher: Scott Rencher 🙂 Chicago RP4C – helping people in career transition. CQ Evangelist. https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottrencher/
00:23:03 Nicholas Falconer: Nicholas Falconer, Aspiring Project Manager based in Chicago,and I would love to connect. www.linkedin.com/in/nicholas-falconer-417b1168
00:23:23 Cassandra Rose: Hi! Cassandra Rose at Global Benefits Director at Sprinklr. Would love to connect: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rosecassandra !
00:23:55 Kimberly Montesinos: Kimberly Montesinos, owner of Crystal Klear Cleaning, Lisle, IL, I’ve been in business since 2004, thus topic is dear to my heart. here to learn and grow.
00:24:18 Christopher Skyles: Christopher Skyles, Talent Acquisition Mgr, Interfirst Mortgage, San Antonio https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopherskyles/
00:24:35 Deborah BIDDLE: Hello Everyone! Deborah Biddle, The People Company LLC, DEI Consultant, www.ppl-co.com, https://www.linkedin.com/in/deborahbiddle/
00:24:37 Chloe Irons: YES!
00:24:41 Deborah BIDDLE: YEs.
00:24:51 Emma Johnson: yes!
00:25:42 Yvette Mack-Tate: Yvette Mack-Tate, would love to connect https://www.linkedcom/in/yvette-mack-tate-shrm-scp-she-her-hers-221594b
00:26:00 Dante Goldstein: hello
00:26:12 Jael Villalobos: Hello everyone, Jael Villalobos, Virgin Galactic People Specialist. Excited to learn from everyone 🙂 https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaelvillalobos/
00:26:17 Joan Morehead: Joan Morehead dialing in from Michigan. HR professional, connect with me at linkedin.com/in/joanmorehead
00:29:14 Lindsey O’Connor: They ARE outdate!
00:29:27 Lotus Buckner: If you’re just joining us, Please introduce yourselves – your name, where you’re joining us from and why you’re interested in continuing these critical conversations.
00:30:06 Lisa Alexander: Sorry for being late. My name is Lisa Brown Alexander. I am the CEO of Nonprofit HR.
00:30:16 Lotus Buckner: @Lindsey, yes!! We need to do better!
00:31:20 Emma Johnson: Emma Johnson- People Team leader in NH. https://www.linkedin.com/in/emma-johnson-sphr-18660214/
00:31:27 Brenda Ogdon: Brenda Ogdon Seattle, Sr Learning & Development Specialist at Alaska Airlines. These conversations make me uncomfortable and I want to do better myself.
00:32:14 Lotus Buckner: @Brenda thank you for sharing! That is exactly what I wanted to create – a SAFE space to have these conversations that can be uncomfortable.
00:32:39 Lotus Buckner: I love that @Eric!
00:33:12 Yvonne Aileen: I’m Yvonne Aileen, real estate broker but here in my other capacity as national developer of real estate curriculum, including fair housing content, for real estate licensees.
00:33:13 Sarah A. Scala (she/hers/her): What were those 5? Health, wealth, criminal justice?
00:33:20 Sarah Stephenson: Housing
00:33:44 Sarah A. Scala (she/hers/her): thanks @Sarah, I’m just missing one now it looks like
00:33:45 Aaron Miller: @Brenda, I love that you said that. These are uncomfortable conversations, and that’s ok. Love from Delta!
00:34:05 Yvonne Aileen: Sarah: housing
00:34:05 Sarah Stephenson: I’m missing that same one @Sarah 😉
00:34:17 Lotus Buckner: For our audience members, we would love to hear what you would like to get out of today and hear about.
00:34:17 Gregory Tall: Great point. With systemic racism, there isn’t usually a single identifiable “bad actor.”
00:34:34 Lotus Buckner: Agree @Greg!!
00:35:16 Lindsey O’Connor: White people do not want to give up their power.
00:35:24 tbyrne@lockton.com: Happy Holidays Everyone! I help HR
00:35:49 Gregory Tall: “The system itself hasn’t changed” <<< This is the issue we’re dealing with.
00:36:26 Joanne Schlosser: I helped “small, minority and woman owned businesses” win government contracts and subcontracts in the 80s and 90s. If we want to change systemic racism, it feels like we need national commitment like that to change.
00:37:08 Yvonne Aileen: Sarah: education for sure, not sure if it was one of the 5 listed
00:37:11 Eunice Wangadi: Health, Wealth, Criminal Justice, Housing + Media?
00:37:23 Lotus Buckner: @Yvonne yes education absolutely!
00:38:05 Gregory Tall: Yes, the systemic racism starts with our names. Lots of research has done about the benefits of “whitening” your resume.
00:38:56 tbyrne@lockton.com: …help HR leaders shape and execute their strategies and goals to align across the C-Suite. In particular, Benefits brokerage. Let’s connect- LinkedIn.com/in/tombyrnelockton/
00:39:24 Sarah Stephenson: Yes, @Sarah he’s speaking to the media point now so that must be the 5th.
00:39:40 Jay Polaki: @gregory tall – yes, lots of research out there.
00:39:43 Lotus Buckner: @Greg we need to have you on! You’re so right about whitening names.
00:40:33 Dante Goldstein: YES
00:40:55 Gregory Tall: @Lotus…For sure. We’ll make it happen in 2021. =)
00:41:08 Wendy Dailey: Yes – we don’t know all of the stories going on!
00:41:55 Sarah Stephenson: 🙁
00:42:09 Mike Vaughn: @Jamon – that is the problem in that you even had to have that thought process
00:42:18 Lindsey O’Connor: BIAS
00:42:19 Scott Rencher: Incredibly eye opening to see how people with a different perspective and cultural upbringing approach and solve the same problem. We all carry a backpack full of experiences and assumptions that inform what we think is the “right” way to tackle that problem.
00:42:24 Courtney Padgett: Wow that is powerful – thinking about your kids names to make sure they have a better chance.
00:42:55 Dante Goldstein: theres a difference between “white ” names and “American” names
00:43:01 Gregory Tall: Real talk! POC have to start thinking about our kids’ job prospects and acceptance before they are even born!
00:43:17 Scott Rencher: Great Freakonomics podcast about Marijuana Pepsi. Check it out! She did a study on the impact of names on outcomes.
00:43:38 Rebecca Edwards, SPHR, SCP: Gosh I hate to leave but I have a client call. I can tell this conversation is going to so relevant and start breaking down boundaries. Please continue this important focus everyone. Thanks Lotus ~Happy Holidays Everyone!~
00:44:44 Lotus Buckner: Thanks @Rebecca! Great to see you here!
00:44:58 Niels Dale: When they arrived in this country, my parents “Americanized” their last name to avoid discrimination.
00:45:31 Jay Polaki: @niels dale – i’ve seen and heard about this this a lot!
00:45:41 Leah Ramsey: This name convo is amazing! Helped a friend, Ahmed, find a job almost immediately by changing his name on Resume to Adam! It was unreal.
00:46:22 Joanne Schlosser: It is so sad but true that there is discrimination based on the name on a resume alone.
00:46:29 Dante Goldstein: wouldn’t that technically be lying though?
00:47:20 Lindsey O’Connor: Look at policies with an equity lens.
00:47:53 Dante Goldstein: Not sure I follow? Can you explain?
00:48:29 Lotus Buckner: @Sarah yes!! Absolutely!
00:48:34 Mike Vaughn: I think you first have to be willing to look in the mirror to know where you are starting from. Get the data – promotion data and pay data is a great place to start . Many companies don’t look at this data through an equity lens
00:49:08 Mya: Unfortunately, this naming issue is not a new one, there is a some great research in Sociology on the power of names in employment…”Are Emily and Greg more Employable than Lakisha and Jamal (2004). Recent articles have been revisiting the study in recent years. Check it out to see the numbers in terms of impact.
00:49:11 Wendy Dailey: It’s interesting how we always have to communicate up. I know it’s difficult, but I think we need to start looking at how to better communicate down and help our staff who communicate differently than the C-suite. we should be communicating in a multitude of ways as everyone has a different preference when it comes to consuming information. And not just language – but medium – can we share our message in different languages AND formats — email, video, audio, other formats I’m not thinking of right now
00:49:18 Joanne Schlosser: i think that HR has always had a management lens. th at’s why unions originally gained traction so employees rights were heard and acted on. We need a systemic approach to working with organizations to make changes for all BIPOC to be treated equally with their peers.
00:50:21 Gideon: An excellence read: https://ourafrica101.org/
00:51:27 Leah Ramsey: It is absolutely about liability for the company – this is why unions became so prevalent during industrial revolution as there was no one within the company to actually look out for the “employee”
00:51:57 Joanne Schlosser: Great point Eric, we need to tie organization benefit to hiring and promoting BIPOC. The stats prove that senior leader teams and boards that are represented with diversity have better results, produce better outcomes.
00:52:08 Leah Ramsey: A lot of organization have outsourced the “caring” for their employees to EAP’s and ERG’s
00:52:13 Joanne Schlosser: Exactly Jamon!
00:52:16 Lindsey O’Connor: @dante https://policy.umn.edu/sites/policy.umn.edu/files/appendix/upolicy_apph.pdf
00:52:39 Gregory Tall: One of my clients has is looking into an employee referral program in which they are paying a higher referral bonus for people who refer diverse candidates that are hired & retained. I think that’s a great way to put their money where their mouth is.
00:53:04 Joanne Schlosser: Great idea Gregory
00:53:21 Dante Goldstein: @lindsey
00:53:26 Dante Goldstein: thank you!
00:53:47 Mya: @Jamon, agreed. And they need to build those networks and pipelines early not just when they are looking to hire by then it is too late and potentially fosters a perceptions of transactionism.
00:53:55 Gregory Tall: @Joanne…Thanks, but I can’t take credit for it. It’s an ad agency in NYC that’s trying this out.
00:54:59 Aaron Miller: YES @Lotus!
00:55:09 Niels Dale: In regards to DEI, it seems that ageism is an aspect that also needs more attention… even though there’s research showing that multi-generational teams are more effective.
00:55:42 Gregory Tall: Yasssss Lotus!!
00:55:49 Sarah Stephenson: We just implemented this too! I always hated how much value we put into the referral bonus because we’re a mostly white, male, able-bodied team. That said, it’s great to hear you speak positively to this effort because I’m a white HR professional and it also feels strange to put a price on “diverse candidates.”
00:55:58 Mike Vaughn: Yes @Lotus, but that will not fix the problem that already exists for current employee base
00:56:01 Dante Goldstein: if someone is qualified then they shouldn’t but hired its really that simple
00:56:10 Dante Goldstein: be*
00:56:17 Angelica Patlán: I think we need to redefine what “professionalism” is and how this term has homogenized the workforce. You can bring diverse candidates in but what is the systems and structures set up to keep them there and allow them to arrive as themselves?
00:57:07 Mya: @Lotus, I often tell members on my selection committees for scholarships and fellowships to consider “potential” and not only “past performance” when trying to evaluate educational background. I think this kind of framework can be applied or used in thinking about hiring as well.
00:57:10 Dante Goldstein: you should always be professional at work. the worksplace shouls be treated as a workplace
00:57:17 Lotus Buckner: @Mike it can apply to current employee base too. We should taking chances on diverse talent within our organizations as well and promote them.
00:57:24 Gregory Tall: @Sarah…I can get why you’d feel that way. I would offer to think of it as placing “value” on diverse candidates instead of a “price.” Nuanced, but I hope it helps.
00:57:40 Sarah Stephenson: Thanks @Gregory!
00:57:49 Annie Wagner: I had several coworkers express frustrations with the word “diversity” being used in the workplace. Does anyone use other phrases? Equitable representation? I would love to hear your thoughts.
00:58:31 Lotus Buckner: @Annie, do you know why there are frustrations around that term?
00:58:49 Gregory Tall: Yes @Angelica!!! Even the definition of “professionalism” is wrapped in systemic racism. e.g. It literally took a court decision to allow Black women to wear their natural hair in the workplace.
00:59:18 Sarah Stephenson: @Annie we look at, within each department, where there’s undrepresentation (both from a market-availability standpoint and internal equity standpoint).
00:59:19 Annie Wagner: @Lotus they said they found it being offensive and othering, I hope to connect with them to learn more about their thoughts.
00:59:24 Scott Rencher: DEI, like any strategy, needs a short term, mid-term, and long-term plan. And it needs a seat at the table, not just a CSR checklist.
00:59:26 Yvonne Aileen: @Lotus. I’ve heard the same thing because the question that is raised is “diverse from whom?” Making Caucasians the standard and everyone else being “diverse”
00:59:26 Leah Ramsey: We are currently working with https://www.e3-proservices.com/ who provides great webinars and action plans on DEI, Uncomfortable Conversations in the Workplace, and how to make REAL changes within our organizations
01:00:28 Dante Goldstein: exactly
01:00:50 Niels Dale: Sad but eye opening “yes, but…” story from Jay !
01:01:38 Joanne Schlosser: Yes Eric and if we want to create a better future for all, we need new ideas, new ways to view professionalism. just like we all had to learn to WFH, we need to see multiple ways to create inclusive orgs
01:01:40 Lotus Buckner: Me too @Eric!
01:01:53 Jay Polaki: Me too @Eric @Lotus!
01:02:17 Jordan Buckner: @Eric, also how companies define “qualified for a position”
01:02:19 Yvonne Aileen: I can definitely see how some of the ideas to combat systemic racism will also help with ageism, sexism, ableism, etc.
01:02:46 Jay Polaki: @niels dale – it was a life-changing experience for me.
01:03:07 Gregory Tall: Yes Jamon! We need allys & sponsors to step up. That’s the game changer!!
01:03:21 Dante Goldstein: @jordan works experience, schooling ect
01:03:53 Wendy Dailey: Love this
01:03:59 Mya: @Annie, I also don’t like the word diversity, because people mean vastly different things when they use it, while assuming we all mean the same thing. One way is to think of diversity (lack thereof) as a description of the circumstance, while equity and inclusion are the actions taken to deal with it’s the implications.
01:04:21 Dante Goldstein: @annie agreed
01:04:29 Eric Kung: 100%
01:04:56 Gregory Tall: Personally, my career greatly benefitted from having a STRONG sponsor early in my career. She was a sponsor before I even knew what a sponsor was.
01:04:58 Annie Wagner: @Mya, thank you for your insight!
01:05:46 Madeleine Azcueta: My favorite acronym: JEDI – Justice, Equity, Diversity, & Inclusion
01:06:07 Sarah Stephenson: @Madeleine LOVE. IT.
01:06:19 Bernadette NYC (she/her/hers): The problem is that people think they can FIND a sponsor. The sponsor is in the room when you don’t know it and have no idea what has been done for you at the time.
01:06:23 Leah Ramsey: @Madeleine – I love JEDI!
01:06:24 Gregory Tall: @Madeleine…I’m diggin’ JEDI!
01:06:29 Joanne Schlosser: Madeline, Love it!
01:06:31 Mike Vaughn: @Madeleine – LOVE JEDI!
01:06:47 Dante Goldstein: what is a safe space?
01:08:30 Mike Vaughn: People are afraid for their jobs regarding bringing this topic up in the workplace unfortunateley
01:09:46 Crystal DeNoncourt: Yes. I hate when HR or any company makes this about compliance and not about inclusion or diversity or creating a open environment where people can be themselves
01:10:07 Jay Polaki: @mike laugh 100% – fear of losing the job is real!
01:10:32 Scott Rencher: DEI has to come from a place of opportunity and not liability
01:10:40 Wendy Dailey: Fantastic conversation – thank you Lotus!
01:10:58 Yvonne Aileen: Thank you all! I have a meeting right up against this one. Ciao!
01:11:00 Gideon: https://ourafrica101.org/
01:11:04 Leah Ramsey: LOTUS – thank you so much for putting this together! You are amazing 🙂
01:11:10 Eric Kung: this was so great. thank you all!
01:11:11 Mya: @Dante In the courses I teach on Race in America and trainings, I foster a safe space by being a place where people can show up as their authentic self (whatever that is) and not be judged by others in the room. And in my discussions I manage the ground Rules on how to respectfully communicate with each other. And I do an exercise where people can anonymously ask the questions they have always wanted to ask, but have been afraid to. And I agree to answer it as a Sociologist/Trainer and a black woman and use it as a jumping off point for some of these discussions. It’s hard, but has been a successful approach.
01:11:11 Gregory Tall: THANK YOU Lotus!!! THANK YOU to the panel. This was a great conversation!!!!
01:11:14 Courtney Padgett: Thank-you all so much! This was extremely eye opening to me
01:11:17 Joanne Schlosser: Agree Eric. there was a great article in the Wall Street Journal yesterday about Coke and what they did and did not do with Black hiring over the past 20 years. a good read
01:11:18 Gideon: YES! TES!
01:11:19 Courtney Padgett: I think we need a part 2
01:11:23 Joanne Schlosser: thank you all!
01:11:27 Stephanie Achten: Thank you! This was great. Yes, we need more of these discussions. Great job everyone!
01:11:30 Kimberly Montesinos: thank you to the panelist, they are awesome!!! definitely a part 2! im in
01:11:31 Jeanette Robichaud: This was really interesting to listen to. Thank you all for your candor. Great job!
01:11:32 Sarah Stephenson: I’ve always taken a stance, as an HR professional, that if you treat employees with the humanity each individual deserves, then you’re going to minimize legal risk more effectively then writing up all sorts of policies handed over by a lawyer to be “in compliance.”
01:11:40 Shonda Rashad: Thank you Lotus! This was good conversation!!
01:11:43 Mike Vaughn: Great convo today and thanks to @Lotus, @Jamon @Jay, @Katie and @Eric for sharing your perspectives! Have a great weekend everyone and Happy Holidays!
01:11:45 Dante Goldstein: done
01:11:45 Yvette Mack-Tate: Great Topic and a conversation that needs to continue!!! Thank YOU presenters and Lotus!!!
01:11:46 Jay Polaki: Thank you everyone!
01:11:47 Shonda Rashad: Be well everyone!!
01:11:49 Gregory Tall: I’m all in for Part 2….3….4….5….6….you get it. =)
01:11:51 James Lindsay: Thank you all. May a recommend a great book. Uncomfortable Conversations With A Black Man by Emmanuel Acho
01:12:04 Jay Polaki: Thanks James!
01:12:10 Mya: Thanks All!! This was a great and meaningful way to spend a Zoom hour.
01:12:12 Niels Dale: Excellent session !
01:12:13 Scott Rencher: Thanks Lotus and everyone’s participation!
01:12:17 Aaron Miller: Thank you, all!
01:12:17 Gideon: @ James https://ourafrica101.org/
01:12:21 Chloe Irons: thank you!
01:12:24 Sarah Stephenson: Thank you so much!
01:12:49 Brenda Ogdon: Thank you so much!
01:14:06 Lotus Buckner: Thank you all for joining us today! Don’t forget to REGISTER NOW for our January 22 event on Living and Breathing Allyship: https://bit.ly/3nAwnVM

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01:14:57 Ursula Pawlowski: Gotta run! AMAZING session-TY Lotus Buckner and all of the great panelists sharing insight today! Happy holidays to everyone! Pls connect with me on LinkedIn, https://www.linkedin.com/in/ursulapawlowskisphr/ Be well! Ursula
01:15:24 Yvette Mack-Tate: Thanks Everyone! Lotus see you on January 22, 2021!
01:15:50 Niels Dale: Seems I need to do a deeper drill down on mentors vs. sponsors vs. allies.
01:16:11 Jay Polaki: @Niels Dale yes!
01:16:19 Dante Goldstein: scott I wanna hear what you have to say
01:16:28 Dante Goldstein: no white people have spoken yet
01:16:52 Maria Cuibus: Gotta run! This was great!
01:17:17 Aaron Miller: @Jamon, my roommate works in oil and gas (he’s black, gay, and Jewish.) He definitely echoes your sentiments.
01:18:51 Crystal DeNoncourt: Your willingness to bring up someone’s name in a room full of opportunities
01:20:48 Gregory Tall: Great point Lotus. We need to add more seats to the table.
01:20:57 Courtney Padgett: That is a great point Jay!
01:21:09 Leah Ramsey: “Same Like Me” bias
01:21:29 Lotus Buckner: That’s sad but true @Eric!
01:21:50 Crystal DeNoncourt: You are made to feel guilty in supporting other women and made to feel like you have to be more a “man” to stay or fit in etc. Aweful
01:22:00 James Lindsay: Great point Eric!
01:22:33 James Lindsay: Simple & small but can make a huge difference.
01:23:48 Gregory Tall: Great point Eric. We have to normalize diversity and also challenging convos about this work
01:24:40 Jessica Velazco: +1
01:24:43 Scott Rencher: I’d love to see apply human-centered design to the work place… to JEDI, DEI, D&I, etc. The foundation of design thinking requires diverse representation, perspectives, and expertise to solve complex problems.
01:24:45 Jamon Harrell: see something say something
01:24:56 Jeanette Robichaud: @ Niels- giving them the tools to call out diplomatically is so important.
01:25:18 Dante Goldstein: How do you know if you see something that you need to report?
01:25:31 Dante Goldstein: what kind of incident are we talking about here?
01:25:41 Gregory Tall: Good point Niels. Everybody can take an active role in calling out microaggressions, for example
01:25:44 Joan Morehead: Creating environments of respect is everyone’s job. Respect for individuality, safety and fulfillment of success – from each person’s framework.
01:26:46 Dante Goldstein: yes please
01:27:04 Gregory Tall: Great point Damon. We’ve gotta work toward building a common language for these convos
01:28:11 Joan Morehead: Asking questions is a great disarming approach…Help me understand…”
01:28:29 Jamon Harrell: agreed
01:28:34 Gregory Tall: Sorry, *Jamon….
01:28:37 Aaron Miller: At the end of the day, we all have our broken pieces and we will cut and be cut by others, ESPECIALLY engaging in these difficult conversations. We have to be ok with being uncomfortable, with hearing things we don’t want to hear, with the inevitable difficulties of interpersonal understanding. We can try to make spaces as safe as possible establishing ground rules, structure, etc. as Jamon said, but we just can’t guarantee comfortability in uncomfortable conversations.
01:29:03 Jay Polaki: @Aaron love your POV.
01:29:18 Aaron Miller: @Jay, thank you 🙂
01:29:20 Lotus Buckner: @Aaron well said, agree!
01:29:25 Dante Goldstein: I think Scott had something he wanted to say
01:30:58 Lotus Buckner: Lol Jamon you’re so right. When my one year old does that, I just keep saying…well, heck, she can hold her own!
01:31:18 Dante Goldstein: well as long as they are still playing nice
01:32:19 James Lindsay: I need to run everyone. Thanks again this was a great conversation!
01:33:17 Aaron Miller: I have to go, as well. Thank you, all. It was a great round table. Looking forward to the next one! Feel free to connect!
01:33:21 Scott Rencher: It’s helpful to explore intent and separate that from ignorance. Suspend our bias and reaction to the stimulus.
01:33:30 Joan Morehead: I can hear my mom’s voice “Watch your language”, words matter and are back by thoughts. Keep the conversation going.
01:34:37 Dante Goldstein: yes
01:34:48 Jay Polaki: @joan 🙂
01:34:56 Dante Goldstein: Beautiful scott
01:35:01 Dante Goldstein: Beautiful
01:35:06 Courtney Padgett: Thank-you everyone!
01:35:06 Cherie Woodbury: I am sorry, I will need to drop off as well. I look forward to our next conversation! I appreciate being part of this group. Happy Holidays!
01:35:10 Gregory Tall: